Meeting Agenda for
Saturday, October 25, 2003

Cogswell College
1175 Bordeaux Dr.
Sunnyvale, CA

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Coffee, Tea, Bagels, and Pastries


FML - Forth Markup Language - CH Ting
"FML is a XML-like tool to design web pages and applications. Most of the XML and HTML commands are supported. These commands are simply Forth words. The FML interpreter executes Forth commands inside the angle brackets, and it accepts colon definitions therby making it infinitely extensible. I will use a practical example to illustrate its power. This is the eP32 simulator originally coded in FPC and later ported to Win32Forth and F#. It converts a text-based simulator to an icon-based application."


Lunch - on your own
Togos or other eateries


Introductions, Announcements, Rumors, and Gossip


Forth for Vintage Computers - Kevin Appert, CH Ting, Dwight Elvey, and Dave Jaffe
A re-presentation of the Vintage Computer Festival talk.

"This presentation will briefly describe and demonstrate Forth, a threaded interpretative language and how it can be used with vintage computers. Forth's strengths include small kernel size and ease of implementing emulators, assemblers, and programming applications on any microprocessor."

"Forth is simple to use and has been ported to most microprocessors. A short discussion of Forth's design and a demonstration of its use in a tethered environment - connecting a PC to vintage hardware over a serial interface - will be presented. Additional demonstrations will include a mechanical robotic hand and an ultrasonic transducer wheelchair interface."

"A specific Forth application with a vintage computer will describe its use in downloading data from the vintage machine with a non-standard disk format. In particular, data has been recovered from a Heathkit H89 with a hard-sector formatted USART-encoded floppy disk and transferred to a PC over a serial interface. Forth was employed on the PC side and assembly language on the H89."

Kevin will also discuss the "Forth Resources on the Web and in Real Life" that he complied for the event.


Forth Success Stories - Kevin Appert
Kevin is resurrecting the task of documenting successful Forth applications - originally dating back to the ACM-SIGForth days. Please bring success stories that you know about and/or volunteer to research unsubstantiated rumors. The end product will be turned into a SVFIG webpage.


Round Table Discussion - Everyone present
Topics include, but are not limited to:

  • MPE's new RTX-2000-compatible core
  • Where are we going with New FIG?
  • Organizing Forth Day 2003?
  • Future talks
  • Field trips (Computer History Museum)
  • SVFIG elections
  • FIG Website
  • Starting Forth on the Internet


After meeting

Possible FIG or SVFIG Business Meeting at a location to be determined.

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