09:34:58 From Christian : Hi everybody! 09:43:24 From Kevin Appert : Hi, Christian, welcome! 09:48:59 From Christian : When you keep thing simple, you make them available to smaller business at low cost. Nice… 09:56:24 From Christian : The real secret of success with a project is to under the problem. And for that you also need al least basic science to be applied with engineering and manufacturing process skills. Knowledge is the key! Indirectly: education. 10:04:01 From Christian : We all need a computer indexed by Google… we frequently give up searching on our computre to simply search on Google. But with your own design, you have to Google index your computer. I don't know how to do that. 10:06:39 From Brad Nelson : Google tried this once upon a time: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Desktop 10:06:53 From John I. Helmers - SE Minnesota : You need a VFD! 10:10:12 From Kevin Appert : Brad, you ready to go? 10:10:26 From Brad Nelson to Kevin Appert(Direct Message) : yep 10:10:52 From Kevin Appert : Dave, is Brad enabled for screen share? 10:11:09 From Brad Nelson : yes let me know when to commence 10:11:39 From Philip Zembrod : A quick hello to everyone, having joined a bit late. 10:12:10 From Kevin Appert : Welcome from the official Throne of the Program Chairman. 10:12:18 From Christian : Is that text appearing in the ZOOM screen integrated in ZOOM or an added plugin? Really usefull for meeting with participants speaking multiple languages. 10:12:58 From Kevin Appert : New in Zoom, CC icon at bottom of screen. 10:15:40 From Peter Forth : Hello everybody ! 10:16:36 From Peter Forth : Thanks Mitch, great talk ! I enjoy very much all the great projects you share with us. And specially the CNC stuff. Is fantastic. 10:17:13 From Dave Jaffe : The text is called Live Transcibe, a feature in Zoom that by AI does a real-time transcription of what is being said. Works very well and much faster than a live transcriber / interpreter. 10:18:58 From Dave Jaffe : Live Transcribe 10:21:55 From Christian : Brad is really a full stack programmer. 10:24:41 From Christian : Integrating Forth, C, JS and HTML and who knows what else in the RTOS sure does make Forth simpler. But it is more powerful. For sure not easier for new comers. 10:26:38 From Philip Zembrod : Love the idea of TRANSFER("name") - will likely steal it 10:28:02 From Bob Armstrong : The K CoSy dictionary `( names vals )` makes vocabularies intrinsically local to sublists . Lot to be said about this . I like a big global vocabulary . 10:39:10 From Adrian Blake : I like the telnet option 10:39:37 From John I. Helmers - SE Minnesota : https://esp32forth.appspot.com/ESP32forth.html 10:39:56 From Kevin Appert : Ting rewady? 10:40:05 From Kevin Appert : Ting ready? 10:40:20 From Kevin Appert : Dave, is Ting enabled for screen share? 10:40:39 From Chen-hanson Ting : Yes. I am. 10:42:57 From Kevin Appert : Brad, can you put the link to your new website in the Chat, please? 10:48:10 From Peter Forth : Excellent Brad ! lots of new stuff to digest. 10:48:10 From Brad Nelson : https://esp32forth.appspot.com 10:49:05 From John Slater : Brad: link to 200 lines for websent 10:50:13 From Brad Nelson : https://github.com/flagxor/svfig-talks/blob/gh-pages/websent/websent.js (wow had forgotten, but literally 200 lines) 10:57:19 From Bob Armstrong : I think the confounding of name and definition as opposed to the creation returning an ` xt , then assigned to a name , as in APLs is an issue with Forth 11:17:55 From Christian : This presentation shows the essential elements of Forth and implementation process. In a simple to understand JS approach. 11:20:19 From Brad Nelson : Bob, you're reminding me I keep forgetting to add :noname to esp32forth. :-) 11:21:44 From Peter Forth : I like Dr. Ting + Brad + Blocks, so what should I do ? :) 11:22:05 From Peter Forth : I love when Dr. Ting explains forth ! Fantastic ! 11:22:41 From John I. Helmers - SE Minnesota : Thanks to all the presenters. I enjoyed the sessions. 11:25:09 From Ken Boak : Blocks were essential in the 1960s when dealing with primitive (IBM 1130) hardware. It is debatable whether they are needed anymore with more capable modern hardware. Brad and Ting have shown that there are at least 2 ways to solve a problem. 11:27:13 From Christian : Block are simpler concept than file systems. 11:27:45 From Chen-hanson Ting : This is the latest version of eforth613.zip https://drive.google.com/file/d/15pjFff6ciNDIBR-jVlE_Eusob72YLPmO/view?usp=sharing 11:27:59 From Liang Ng : https://github.com/udexon/Multiweb/blob/master/Phoscript_Tutorials.md Here is my own implementation of "simplified" Forth, for non-Forth programmers, including JavaScript, PHP, etc. Different appraoch from Dr. Ting's JEForth. But should have many similarities. 11:28:18 From Christian : And great teachers… 11:30:15 From George Dorner : If anyone is interested in the New Micro 68HC11 board with their FORTH, no PS, send me an email at: george@dorners.net. Not looking to maximize $$, just get it in the hands of someone who might want it. 11:30:35 From John I. Helmers - SE Minnesota : I have to leave. Thanks for the good time. 11:31:36 From Juergen Pintaske : Is there an indication of relative speed for bare metal forth compared to jeforth? 11:32:07 From Peter Forth to Brad Nelson(Direct Message) : Brad I went to look for my notepad when you explained how to add a new block 11:32:43 From Peter Forth to Brad Nelson(Direct Message) : I lost that part sorry ! :) what is the word to add 1 new block from the editor, in the current file 11:33:10 From Brad Nelson to Peter Forth(Direct Message) : wipe clear the current block with spaces 11:33:20 From Bob Armstrong : CoSy list 11:33:25 From Brad Nelson to Peter Forth(Direct Message) : so 123 list wipe 11:33:36 From Peter Forth to Brad Nelson(Direct Message) : Ok ! 11:35:02 From George Dorner : Every teacher of ODEs would like to have that classroom demo when covering Newton’s Law of Cooling. 11:35:11 From Bob Armstrong : Yes . Stefan Boltzman is T 4 ^ 11:35:42 From Bob Armstrong : SB thermal radiation total 11:36:08 From dudley : it seems that copy in chat is disabled? 11:36:53 From Adrian Blake : I learnt about adding the milk or cream initally from a presentation by prof Julius Sumner Miller in 1965 ?? or so 11:37:15 From Philip Zembrod : I could copy 11:39:54 From Bob Armstrong : My interest in Temp is because of : http://cosy.com/#PlanetaryPhysics 11:40:26 From Ken Boak : Got one, - James has also announced a 65C02, Z80, Teensy 4.1and Raspberry Pi pico boards with the Dazzler module on board. 11:41:49 From Bob Armstrong : Some basics in Forth | http://cosy.com/4thCoSy/Code/Physics/general.f 11:44:32 From Christian : Is there a built-in temperature sensor on the ESP32? 11:45:10 From bb : oversample the adc with a lm35 for greater accuracy 11:45:16 From Christian : We could experiment at no cost with taht one if present... 11:45:53 From Liang Ng to Brad Nelson(Direct Message) : How may I get in touch with you? 11:46:13 From Christian : I agree on the pinout problem. 11:46:22 From Liang Ng to Brad Nelson(Direct Message) : My email is LSN95R@gmail.com 11:48:26 From Adrian Blake : Good bye all and good night form Estonia. 11:49:16 From Christian : And the AVR MCUs and ST32 (Bluepill) MCUs are much simpler than the ESP32 Tensilica Xtensa LX6. A nightmare of complexity ut powerful and flexible. 11:50:53 From John Rible : I got a couple of the seeed studio's "Grove Beginner Kit for Arduino" boards 11:52:05 From Philip Zembrod : I used the DS12B20 temperature sensor in the past, with OneWire interface, that was amazing to use from a Pi 3 11:52:28 From Ken Boak : I use a 10K thermistor and a 10K resistor connected to an ADC pin. Use the Steinhart-Hart code to linearise the thermistor output to Fahrenheit or centigrade. Thermistors come in coffee-proof packaging https://preis-ing.de/en/extras/werkzeuge-fuer-ingenieure-en-translation/c-code-generator-for-ntc-lookup-table/ 11:53:00 From Dennis Ruffer : https://www.seeedstudio.com/ 11:53:27 From Dennis Ruffer : https://www.seeedstudio.com/Grove-Starter-Kit-for-Raspberry-Pi-Pico-p-4851.html 11:54:14 From Christian : To initiate kids to programming, all you need is Scratch. The hardware is just a black square for kids. They need something more visible and exciting. 11:54:23 From Ken Boak : Matthias Koch just released Mecrisp Stellaris Forth for RP pico http://mecrisp.sourceforge.net/ Look for version 2.5.6 11:55:06 From David Spacey : Agree with Christian, Scratch is a great starting point for kids. 11:55:14 From Christian : At high school level, they might want to see what inside the black square. 11:56:36 From John Rible : Seed Arduino kit was $20 [https://www.seeedstudio.com/Grove-Beginner-Kit-for-Arduino-p-4549.html] 11:56:53 From Christian : It is wonderful to see all these mature experience humans wishing to pass on the experience. 11:57:55 From Ken Boak : Kevin - a cut down Forth-like interactive language in fewer than 1024 bytes of ROM code? Remember that the HP-35 had just 768 10 bit words of ROM 11:57:59 From Christian : As humans we are all essentially teachers for the next generation. Evolution... 11:59:26 From Christian : Peter is more orderly than me. I could not find mine... 12:02:59 From Christian : Hey! The world is virtual 12:03:13 From George Dorner : dronebotworkshop.com is the best instruction about such topics I have seen on the web. His preparation and breadth are remarkable and instructive, even for non-newbies.